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And then on the other side you have a camp centered around Donald Tusk, who is now the Prime Minister, which is more liberal.

Tytuł był Poland's Tusk Government is not so different from its law and justice predecessors.

But from reading your analysis this month, there is one major difference and that's how Donald Tusk and his opponents in the Law and Justice Party view Donald Trump, as you know we were talking about.

So what has Tusk been saying about Donald Trump?

Earlier this year Tusk warned that Trump would be as president close to Russia and could abandon Ukraine.

Let's hear that clip of Donald Tusk speaking about Donald Trump.

This echoed a lot of the rhetoric that was used by Tusk's camp in the past, suggesting that Donald Trump is at best overly sympathetic towards Russia, and at worst is dependent on Russia, somehow working with Russia, which they suggested would be against not only Ukraine's interests, but also against Poland's interests as well.

So on defense and immigration, the current Tusk government actually

You wrote back in October that immigration was quote a much needed debate in Poland in regards to Donald Tusk's policy shift there.

I wanted to ask what exactly has been the shift from Donald Tusk on immigration?

What we've seen over the last two years is a shift towards a much tougher position on migration from Donald Tusk.

During the parliamentary election campaign in Poland last year, in 2023, when Donald Tusk was in opposition and hoping to come to power,

Law and Justice in the past has very often used tough rhetoric on migration, especially during election campaigns, but Tusk turned the tables on Law and Justice and pointed out that, accurately in this case, that

During its eight years in power, Poland has experienced its biggest wave of migration in history, but he also especially focused on the fact that although most immigrants have come from Ukraine and many others from Belarus, Poland's eastern neighbours, there's also a growing number of migrants coming from Muslim majority countries, from African countries, and this is something that Donald Tusk used against the Law and Justice Government.

This campaign ad really epitomized the shift that took place in Polish politics on this issue and especially from Donald Tusk and his camp.

The advert in its style and also substance was very reminiscent of what law and justice itself would have used in previous years to attack Tusk's camp, but this was now being used by Tusk himself to attack law and justice, claiming that it had been too soft on migration during its time in power.

This was exploited by Donald Tusk's camp as evidence during the election campaign last year that the law and justice government had been too soft on migration, that it had talked tough on migration, but actually in reality it was letting in record numbers of people into the country and that in particular this advert and much of the rhetoric from Tusk's camp focused not on the large numbers of Ukrainian

You know, Tusk has gone in this direction seemingly just as hard-lined or similarly hard-lined to law and justice.

Names mentioned in Poland with the shift in Donald Tusk's rhetoric is part of this

Wygląda na to, że Tusk próbuje blokować prawo i sprawiedliwość politycznie, obserwując pewne ich polityki populistyczne, na przykład na temat imigracji.

In Poland's case, Donald Tusk, his party won, but only narrowly.

As Tusk was pointing out, but if Trump tightens the screws economically or security-wise, does that feed into perhaps the popularity of Law and Justice, a party that is more Trump-friendly long term?