#25 Why VMware Tanzu if there are soooo many open source choices?

The easier it will be. And the faster you can move. One of the platforms we have is based on Cloud Foundry, as we call it now, the Tanzu Application Service. This is something that we had before Kubernetes came to dominate the container space. Lots of people still use it now to effect and they like it. That's an example of there is not much ability to customize things when you use Cloud Foundry, when you use the Tanzu application service. And what happens there is that, yes, very rapidly, people can start developing because it's all integrated there. If you imagine using a platform as a service, part of it is that you don't have a lot of choices.

Just to choose one that seems to come up all the time, everyone has their own exciting way to do certificate management. Key management. Secrets. If you're running our stuff, you can run our stuff on public or private cloud or whatever. Depending on what you want to do and how much you want to customize it, that's another thing that has customization. Depending on how you want to do your build pipelines and the way you want to add security in there. All of these things You can start with great templates and defaults that are again supported by like an ecosystem around there. But as you start to customize things more and more, that's where you introduce like, I don't know, more time to get to what you wanted.

Like what you'll find is that within your organization, You need to customize those technologies, those thought technologies to steal a phrase. And that's where the executive role becomes very important because their job is now to do that, right? That is their product to start thinking about. You know, I'm thinking like When you're entering to this world of new platforms, let's say a new containerization platform that you go beyond your VM deployments, right? And you start to use the modern apps platforms. Wherever it is, in your, let's say, data center or in the cloud, you need to, as an organization, or you should, start to think about the user as not only the end user, right?

. . . . . . . Wydaje mi się, że ta myśl wchodzi w prędkość na poziom on-prem, hybrydowy lub multi-cloud. Możemy to nazwać gdziekolwiek chcemy, ale zaczynamy rozumieć, że jako usługi, jak i usługi, tak samo jak kreatorzy i operacyjni, This tool is working this way, so not try to take power tools and hit the nail with the power tool.

Coming back to this idea of starting in the middle of with the decision on what platform we will choose or we go pure open source or we go for a platform as a service of public cloud or we invest for example in Tanzu in all of this setup. I think that the important part is a developer relations kind of world right now. It's very, very hype. It's making a lot of hype right now. So DevRel, right? I think that DevRel Should be a team of people, you know, should be a bunch of people from different parts with a good stakeholder who can choose wisely and make this decision. And then present this to their own, right? So infrastructure guys, why it's good to tell to their own people, developers to their own.

We don't see much that of movement, more or less seeing like, okay, this is the platform, let's use it. Yeah. And this is kind of, you know, like, I wanna use it. Nobody asked me that I like it, right? Yeah, yeah. No, I think, I think, you know, the, the phrase developer relations or DevRel, like I, I see that used more and more inside organizations who are solving exactly the problem that you're going over, right? Which is, um, like this, this is another area where, W 2015-2017 roku zauważyliśmy, że tzw. aplikacyjny serwis Tanzu, Cloud Foundry, stało się, że tak jak wspomniałeś, ludzie przystąpili i wysyłali e-mail do wszystkich deweloperów, a wtedy byli zaskoczeni, że nikt go nie użył.