Both sides of the Atlantic | WEC 2026

We invite you to listen to the discussions recorded during the Warsaw European Conversation, an annual conference by Polityka Insight and the European Council on Foreign Relations. In five episodes we discuss Europe's readiness for war, digital sovereignty, the competitiveness of the EU economies, European elections and energy policy. In today's episode we discuss the future of transatlantic relations and the evolution of security policy on both sides of the Atlantic. Zobaczmy strategiczną postępowość Francji i wpływy potencjalnych zmian w liderowaniu. Zobaczmy również dynamikę polityki domyślnej w USA, rolę politycznych partii i społeczności, które załatwiają władzę Donalda Trumpa oraz znaczenie podczas wyborów. Zastanawiamy się, co to oznacza dla Europy, zwłaszcza w kontekście art.

I francuski prezydent, który po raz ostatni wyjaśnił największą zmianę w doktrynie nuklearskiej w 30 latach w Francji. Zacznijmy od tego. Najpierw chciałabym popatrzeć na przykład Iranu, ale trochę to rozszerzyć. Więc reakcja europejska na atak amerykański i izraelski na Iran się zmieniła niesamowicie w ostatnich kilku tygodniach. Najpierw, to przechodziło przez kilka etapów. Pierwsza reakcja była próba, żeby nie kontradikować Waszyngtonu. Names mentioned, Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University.

Dzień dobry, Marta. Bardzo dziękuję za zaproszenie i za te bardzo trudne pytania, ponieważ są różne rozmiary. Pierwsza, która powinna być podpisana, według mnie, jest próba uzyskania geostrategicznej perspektywy tego, co się dzieje, i zrozumienia, że jest interakcja między Ukraińskim teatrem, Środowiskiem Środowiskowym, a może także teatrem Chin. Myślę, że powinniśmy zrozumieć tę interakcję. Names mentioned, Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University.

Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University. Wielkie dzięki i do zobaczenia! Names mentioned, Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University. Names mentioned, Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University.

Nikt w Europie nie był zadowolony z reżimem, nie wiedzieliśmy, że w Europie nie ma żadnych ataków przeciwko niemieckim krajom, nie ma żadnych ataków przeciwko Iranom, nie ma żadnych ataków przeciwko Francjom, nie ma żadnych ataków przeciwko Iranom, nie ma żadnych ataków. Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University. Names mentioned, Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University.

Europejczycy powiedzieli nie. Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Ale co jeśli Donald Trump wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż wciąż

Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Przede wszystkim, myślę, że powinniśmy zaakceptować ideologiczną konwergencję, lub koluzję pomiędzy Wielką Brytanią a Krymniem od ostatniego czerwca. Jednym z najważniejszych wydarzeń było w zeszłym sierpniu wypowiedź, że prezydent Trump przyjeżdża do Alasky prezydentem Putinem.

Z względu na orientację, jego kontrnarratywa na Ukrainie to coś przewidywalnego. The Trump administration fundamental orientation. I wouldn't say the same for the whole US system, of course, but for the Trump administration it is very clear. And also we observe in pure diplomatic terms, you know, that what is decided by President Trump is supposed to be implemented only by two of his fellows, Serge Witkow and Jared Kushner. Wielkie dzięki i do zobaczenia!

Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University. Names mentioned, Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University. Names mentioned, Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump,

Zobaczmy sytuację w Wielkiej Brytanii na przykład. Whose country sent support to Cyprus after being attacked by Iran? By the French Navy. So just to say that military spending is one thing, but also military capability and wish to use them is another one. Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Thomas Gomart, Amanda Sloat, Donald Trump, IE University

President Trump does not manage to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours, topples regimes in Venezuela, imposes tariffs across the globe. His approval ratings are actually quite low. The tariffs have driven up prices in the United States. Venezuela intervention does not seem to have solved things in Venezuela either. Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations,

Why aren't Republicans saying no to Donald Trump and why aren't Democrats more prominent? If you could help us to understand that a little bit better. Thank you for having me and I have to say it is a daunting list of challenges that's facing the United States both on the domestic side and on the foreign policy side. And as you said, having spent my entire career focusing on transatlantic relations, I'm not only saddened by what's happening to the United States in terms of its own democracy, but I'm also very sad about the impact that it's having on the transatlantic relationship. In terms of what's happening domestically, you have Republicans within Congress that really seem to have gotten co-opted by Trump's control of the MAGA party.

And I think you are seeing a number of Republicans privately expressing concern about what is Trump doing, privately expressing concern to the White House. Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Donald Trump, IE University. Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw,

Czy myślisz, że powstanie Donalda Trumpa jako prezydenta dla polskiej polityki w Stanach Zjednoczonych, w zależności od tego, czy jest to problem dla długotrwałej przyszłości, czy jest to bardzo konkretne dla tej osoby? Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations. Muszę powiedzieć, że w Stanach Zjednoczonych jest wiele rzeczy, które mogłyby się nauczyć od doświadczenia krajów takich jak Polska, wczorajszego Czechosłowakia, ruchów demokracji, które doświadczyły wasze kraje.

Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Amanda Sloat, I absolutely so. All of you are welcome to come to the United States and I know those conversations are already happening actually with democracy activists in the United States and elsewhere. On your specific question, again, you would have a better sense historically, but I do think once you start to have the erosion of democratic norms and practices, it is very difficult to come back with that. Trump, for example, in his first term started talking about fake news and stolen elections.

Fake news is now a very common part of our political vernacular and it is also being adopted by political leaders in other countries. And once you start to raise doubts about the integrity of an election system, once you start to erode the powers of courts and of the Congress, it is difficult to get that back. I don't think it's entirely impossible. When I was in the Biden administration, I would argue that there had been an erosion in the first Trump administration of an inclusive interagency policy making process. There was an erosion in the types of communications that the White House was putting out about calls the presidents had about engagements and policies that it was making towards foreign countries. Some of those institutional things were quite easy for us to stand back up again and I believe the next administration would do the same thing.

I do believe there will be elections. Trump joked when he was sitting with President Zelenski in the Oval Office a year ago, I believe that was, about the idea that Ukraine was not able to have elections because of martial law. That idea seemed to be quite appealing to Trump. I do not believe he would be able to get away with not having elections. And I don't think the United States fighting a war in Iran constitutes a reason for not having elections. It's obviously a very different situation in Ukraine where part of your country is occupied and a large number of your men are involved in fighting, a large number of your citizens are outside of the country. You can also look at the example of 9-11, which happened in September. You had elections several weeks after that.

Więc jeśli wybranie, wypracowanie, wypracowanie jest na bieżąco, czy wygryzanie Gminy zmieni tak bardzo, w sensie zmęczenia Donalda Trumpa? Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Now, Congress is not actually passing a lot of legislation right now, certainly not without the President giving them the go ahead to do it. Trump is doing a lot through executive orders, he doesn't need legislation to act in foreign policy terms, and so it wouldn't change a tremendous amount there.

The Republicans in Congress are holding some oversight hearings and frankly we are seeing pretty disgraceful behavior by cabinet officials appearing before Congress. I was a congressional staff around the House for four years and certainly never saw members of the administration talk to members of Congress with the degree of disdain and disrespect that we are seeing from cabinet members now. Jeśli demokraczy kontroliły Gdańsk, to prawdopodobnie byłyby większe liczby spotkań o przemysłach, większe liczby zaskoczeń, ale muszę uznać, że członkowie administracji ciągnęłyby z ich bardzo przemysłowymi zachowaniami, które widzieliśmy do tej pory. On the impeachment question, you're right that it is very possible that the House would move on articles of impeachment as it did during Trump's first term.

Polityka Insight, European Council on Foreign Relations, Warsaw, Trump belatedly recognizing the value of Europe and NATO, that you have very strategically located bases that he wanted to use for the military action in Iran, that Europe has effective militaries that he wants to help open the Strait of Hormuz. And so hopefully these lessons and reminders will not be lost on him, that there is mutual value and benefit to NATO and our alliances generally.